If you play this game enough to get irritated and need, much less concoct a hack, you should just buy a real drum set and learn to play. It’s much more rewarding, productive, and likely to get you a girlfriend.
But can the top video game drummers play real drums well if they never had before….I highly doubt it.
Talent of playing real drums and guitar can carry over to hitting notes passing by a screen very easy. You cannot take video game skills and play guitar or drums from it.
Talent and skill is something people work at and nurture. No one cares if you are talented and skilled at a video game because it doesn’t translate into anything useful in real life.
actually yes, if you play on the higher levels then it does teach you how to coordinate your hands and feet better, and dissociate movements if needed, my friend learned on rock band drums, and is a very good drummer
how can it not? you hit circular objects with precise timing, often with a pedal you step on
You are given precise instructions and timing to hit said circular objects. Plus, 4 circular pads in a row with a pedal is nothing at all like a drum kit with 4-10 cymbals, hi-hat, snare, several toms and generally 3 or more foot pedals, plus any other addons that the drummer may need.
My point was that a trained drummer could smash Rockband/GH in no time at all with almost zero learning curve. Someone who played video game drums for 5 years would not be able to sit down at a real kit and be able to do the same. Sure you will be better then not have playing the game but you wont get past much more then a basic hi-hat/hi-hat/snare and tom-tom roll.
My friend who plays real guitar says it makes it harder to play Rock Band guitar. He’s like “I keep trying to hit a G chord but it wants me to hit yellow! Real guitars don’t have yellow!”
Anyway, my boyfriend and I play lots of video games together, including Rock Band, and it’s fun. To people who say you should go learn a real instrument instead: I also play Tetris, so I guess I should go stack actual blocks instead. Or shoot actual zombies with actual guns in an actual post-apocalyptic world instead of just in video games.
Believe me, I’m perfectly aware that playing Rock Band doesn’t make me good at real instruments, it just makes me good at Rock Band. Which is fun, wheee!
Agreed. Being a guitarist, I play guitar hero with ease. My gamer friend (plays the game daily) picks up my guitar and after 5 minutes of trying to wrap his hand around a chord shape complains about his fingers hurting.
Thanks for this. easy fix for the crappy “plonk” sound these toy drums make. Now you get to hear more of the real drum track in the game while playing.
To all those that say real is better than simulated/emulated or vice versa, get the heck over it. That’s nothing more than “my job is harder than your job”, “my skill is harder than your skill”. It’s frackin’ foolish, let people enjoy what they enjoy. Jesus, if there’s anything these guys should learn it’s the fact that artificually simulated exercise DOES improve trained responsed to real world events, go look at all the soliders who play video games… this is a beginning for percussion video games and if you can’t see the direction is going — I don’t feel a loss whatsoever. “Real vs. Fake” an argument that will go on for all time, there was a time where rock music was the “imposter”, don’t forget your roots.
Sure, let’s tell people who play rhythm games to go learn a real instrument. That worked so well when you told the kind of people that play anime dating sim games to go get a real girlfriend. And while you’re at it, let’s get the people who play fighting games to go learn a real martial art and beat the crap out of each other. And those kids that play too many FPS games? Let’s give them real guns.
Dear “learn a REAL instrument” people,
This is a game, it’s for fun. Even my fiance, who plays real guitar well, has FUN playing Guitar Hero and Rock Band. Why? It’s a game, games are fun. All games, even scrabble, are fun to get high scores are and can become quite addictive. It doesn’t mean that the people playing it think they are playing a real instrument and have real musical talent. Well, some may but they probably also think that they are tough for shooting people in a video game.
You also have to look at the fact that it does teach people coordination and how to stay in a beat.
Stop dissing and start having some damn fun!
@Drock
No offense, but who the hell has over 4 cymbals? I can understand if you’re a death metal drummer or something, but otherwise a ride crash and china can work for any typical band.
And i learned to play drums from rock band so…. suck it?
To drum one needs nothing more than to learn to coordinate his hands and feet in many odd styles, and rock band/guitar hero help that.
Drock : @Fault
No one cares if you are talented and skilled at a video game because it doesn’t translate into anything useful in real life.
Ever hear of UAV’s and how they are flown? Highly skilled Video Game players (specifically First Person Shooters) are shoo-ins for these high paying jobs!!!
This whole argument is ridiculous, shit, I love playing rock band. One reason I love rock band is how many people start playing real instruments because of it. Everyone will eventually find there way to a real instrument if that’s really what they find they like. I play guitar, bass and drums professionally, and it’s nothing like rock band. however, you can’t deny the coordination it builds. It promotes independent movement of the limbs, and develops better capacity for muscle memory. The point is that if someone really wants to play, they will. If someone wants to play rockband in their spare time, maybe being a musician just isn’t for them. I wouldn’t necessarily glorify someone who’s awesome at rock band in the same way i would a phenomenal drummer or guitarist, but i give them credit, they can do something better than me. It’s all in how people decide to spend their time.
@Drock
“My point was that a trained drummer could smash Rockband/GH in no time at all with almost zero learning curve.”
I suggest you look up the video where Rush was on the Colbert Report and tried to play Tom Sawyer on Rock Band. Neil Peart, arguably one of the best drummers in rock, failed miserably.
A couple problems with the whole ‘go play a real instrument’ thing:
a) They are assuming that all people playing the game do not already play a real instrument, which is clearly not so.
b) They are assuming that all people playing the game think of the game as a replacement for learning a real instrument. This is very much not true and probably only a very small minority of players.
c) They are assuming that all people playing the game have enough time to devote to learning to play and practicing a real instrument. Some people who play these games are actually very busy and have very limited free time a week to devote to activities outside of their job/school.
d) They are assuming that all people playing the game can afford to own a real instrument. Some people don’t have enough money to buy and maintain an instrument, not to mention lessons. A decent guitar alone can cost $200+ (the prices can go VERY high, over $5k), new strings $4-$50+, cleaning kits $10-$25+, amps $200+ (again can go very high). So the entire cost comes to about $414, and that’s before you add lessons and any other crud you might want or need and any possible fines for noise,
e) They are assuming that all people who play the game WANT to learn an instrument. Many people just plain don’t want to or don’t care to learn an instrument.
f) They are assuming that they are superior to the people who play the game because they know how to play ‘Twinkle Twinkle Little Star’ on the harpsichord and that everyone cares what they, being far more educated in music, has to say. This is in general entirely false as very few people actually care what a smarty pants with a swelled ego has to say.
i thought this was a place to rag on funny pictures ..takes your serious debates somewhere serious… I cames here to laff. not to determine whats more worthwile.. we could all be working or doing osmething constructive..so ..Stifle all that serious jazz.. have fun.. make friends…
theres plenty of forums to argue in..
Haha!! This idea is going to be very useful when I just get angry of “not giving a tone” on the drums and my boyfriend is still wanting to “teach-me-how” should I do it… xD
does this really work?? (ps for those that don’t understand it, he is making the beat of the drums less noticeable… something I will have to try when I get home.
My boyfriend has this “socks set up” on his RockBand drum set. Well, actually, HAD this set up, because he’s had the RockBand 2 drum set for almost a year now, which is a LOT more quiet and has more sensitive surface pads. So basically, that’s what the socks were used for on the original drum set. If you Youtube some RockBand songs… you’ll notice this “fix” is a lot more common than you’d think.
Hense, this Fix deserves a thumb down!
Luna :
To people who say you should go learn a real instrument instead: I also play Tetris, so I guess I should go stack actual blocks instead. Or shoot actual zombies with actual guns in an actual post-apocalyptic world instead of just in video games.
Believe me, I’m perfectly aware that playing Rock Band doesn’t make me good at real instruments, it just makes me good at Rock Band. Which is fun, wheee!
@Saiya
So true, people that talk about “fake instruments” need to take a hike =P Especially since it really did help, I just recently got a real drum kit and I would suck at it, especially the kick pedal, without rock band.
@Claudia
Yeah cause that’s what I want to do. Sit around and you tube some rockband videos. WOW! sounds like fun…even worse than listening to you losers go on on about a damn game. The real musicians and the gamers do have one thing in common. Neither one of them can make friends so they sit at home and play with either a game or instrument. Like I said before, try havin some sex it might help all of you out. If you can break free from your big D&D nights.
C-Clay : @Teh Skitch
Seriously? do you think people want to read paragraph upon paragraph? find some friends and maybe even try to have some sex…
playing guitar hero, with my boyfriend…frequently precurser to sex. video games are sexy. not as sexy as d&d, but much sexy none the less. plus, they help you find friends who don’t whine about you talking about zombies drow or kender.
aww, that’s just a well-known Rockband Hax.
@AV
What is for plox?
I dont get it..
I totally get this. Those drums make the most irritating noise EVER!!!!!!!!!!
This is a common solution to both the noise and overresponsiveness of the standard Rock Band drum kit.
Gives a whole new meaning to the term ‘beat sock.’
They didn’t even do it right. It works better if the dampening pad tension bands go around the drum pads rather than over them.
its nothing funny, its just a well known hack to dampen the pad so that it registers the hit on the pad in sync when you are doing harder beats
Remember, what may be common to a hardcore/moderate gamer might be more weird to someone who doesn’t play videogames at all.
Just saying, that’s all.
[...] some deeds shouldn’t go unnoticed, like this cardboard computer case, or the smelly sock fix to make RockBand drums a little [...]
yea! what everybody else said! it’s so it doesn’t make that irritating noise. srsly.
If you play this game enough to get irritated and need, much less concoct a hack, you should just buy a real drum set and learn to play. It’s much more rewarding, productive, and likely to get you a girlfriend.
@CapnCaveman
Wow, someone suggesting Rock Band players should just learn real instruments?
What a novel idea.. I don’t think anyone has ever suggested that!
@CapnCaveman Oh come on, what does LOGIC and TALENT have to do with the internetz??!
For added sensory embellishment, you can use dirty socks.
@CapnCaveman
Wouldn’t it be weird if the top Rock Band drummers DID play real drums? Oh, wait, they do.
@Fault
But can the top video game drummers play real drums well if they never had before….I highly doubt it.
Talent of playing real drums and guitar can carry over to hitting notes passing by a screen very easy. You cannot take video game skills and play guitar or drums from it.
Talent and skill is something people work at and nurture. No one cares if you are talented and skilled at a video game because it doesn’t translate into anything useful in real life.
@drock
actually yes, if you play on the higher levels then it does teach you how to coordinate your hands and feet better, and dissociate movements if needed, my friend learned on rock band drums, and is a very good drummer
how can it not? you hit circular objects with precise timing, often with a pedal you step on
Actually, thats how I learned to play drums….
@CapnCaveman
>buy a real drum set and learn to play.
>likely to get you a girlfriend.
lol
@baalazmon
You are given precise instructions and timing to hit said circular objects. Plus, 4 circular pads in a row with a pedal is nothing at all like a drum kit with 4-10 cymbals, hi-hat, snare, several toms and generally 3 or more foot pedals, plus any other addons that the drummer may need.
My point was that a trained drummer could smash Rockband/GH in no time at all with almost zero learning curve. Someone who played video game drums for 5 years would not be able to sit down at a real kit and be able to do the same. Sure you will be better then not have playing the game but you wont get past much more then a basic hi-hat/hi-hat/snare and tom-tom roll.
Common sense baalazmon.
My friend who plays real guitar says it makes it harder to play Rock Band guitar. He’s like “I keep trying to hit a G chord but it wants me to hit yellow! Real guitars don’t have yellow!”
Anyway, my boyfriend and I play lots of video games together, including Rock Band, and it’s fun. To people who say you should go learn a real instrument instead: I also play Tetris, so I guess I should go stack actual blocks instead. Or shoot actual zombies with actual guns in an actual post-apocalyptic world instead of just in video games.
Believe me, I’m perfectly aware that playing Rock Band doesn’t make me good at real instruments, it just makes me good at Rock Band. Which is fun, wheee!
@Drock
Dude videogame skills translate into mega-sex points (MSP), and success points (SP).
@Drock
Agreed. Being a guitarist, I play guitar hero with ease. My gamer friend (plays the game daily) picks up my guitar and after 5 minutes of trying to wrap his hand around a chord shape complains about his fingers hurting.
Thanks for this. easy fix for the crappy “plonk” sound these toy drums make. Now you get to hear more of the real drum track in the game while playing.
Q: What do you call a guy with no musical ability nor sense of rhythm that likes to hang out with musicians?
A: A drummer.
I’ve heard this joke, as well as bassist jokes.
When people tell them, I usually suggest they find some better bands
Wouldn’t it be easier to just pad the drumsticks?
Hint: use DIRTY socks for a “funkier” sound.
It offends my aesthetic sensibilities that the socks are not also color coded!
Q: How do you know when the stage is level?
A: The drummer drools from both sides of his mouth.
I guess I’m just the wrong kind of ghetto. I thought they did that so they could return them later and they wouldn’t look used all beat up.
@Daniel
I thought the same thing!
@Marcos
LOL
@chris
LOL on that lol
i dont care if this actually works, its just plain ridiculous, get it “plain”
To all those that say real is better than simulated/emulated or vice versa, get the heck over it. That’s nothing more than “my job is harder than your job”, “my skill is harder than your skill”. It’s frackin’ foolish, let people enjoy what they enjoy. Jesus, if there’s anything these guys should learn it’s the fact that artificually simulated exercise DOES improve trained responsed to real world events, go look at all the soliders who play video games… this is a beginning for percussion video games and if you can’t see the direction is going — I don’t feel a loss whatsoever. “Real vs. Fake” an argument that will go on for all time, there was a time where rock music was the “imposter”, don’t forget your roots.
Hey! Hey guys! Stop having fun!
http://xkcd.com/359/
Sure, let’s tell people who play rhythm games to go learn a real instrument. That worked so well when you told the kind of people that play anime dating sim games to go get a real girlfriend. And while you’re at it, let’s get the people who play fighting games to go learn a real martial art and beat the crap out of each other. And those kids that play too many FPS games? Let’s give them real guns.
@adam ITG, Rock Band and Guitar Hero aren’t Bemani games. They’re all rhythm games, but Bemani is a brand.
Dear “learn a REAL instrument” people,
This is a game, it’s for fun. Even my fiance, who plays real guitar well, has FUN playing Guitar Hero and Rock Band. Why? It’s a game, games are fun. All games, even scrabble, are fun to get high scores are and can become quite addictive. It doesn’t mean that the people playing it think they are playing a real instrument and have real musical talent. Well, some may but they probably also think that they are tough for shooting people in a video game.
You also have to look at the fact that it does teach people coordination and how to stay in a beat.
Stop dissing and start having some damn fun!
@FlatFive
Holy crap I laughed hard when I read that.
@Drock
No offense, but who the hell has over 4 cymbals? I can understand if you’re a death metal drummer or something, but otherwise a ride crash and china can work for any typical band.
And i learned to play drums from rock band so…. suck it?
To drum one needs nothing more than to learn to coordinate his hands and feet in many odd styles, and rock band/guitar hero help that.
thnx
Ever hear of UAV’s and how they are flown? Highly skilled Video Game players (specifically First Person Shooters) are shoo-ins for these high paying jobs!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CBP_unmanned_aerial_vehicle_control.jpg
Looks like a frickin’ arcade to me!
How do you tell if a drumkit is level?
The drool is dripping out of both sides of the drummer’s mouth
This whole argument is ridiculous, shit, I love playing rock band. One reason I love rock band is how many people start playing real instruments because of it. Everyone will eventually find there way to a real instrument if that’s really what they find they like. I play guitar, bass and drums professionally, and it’s nothing like rock band. however, you can’t deny the coordination it builds. It promotes independent movement of the limbs, and develops better capacity for muscle memory. The point is that if someone really wants to play, they will. If someone wants to play rockband in their spare time, maybe being a musician just isn’t for them. I wouldn’t necessarily glorify someone who’s awesome at rock band in the same way i would a phenomenal drummer or guitarist, but i give them credit, they can do something better than me. It’s all in how people decide to spend their time.
You are all know-it-alls, aren’t you!
@Drock
“My point was that a trained drummer could smash Rockband/GH in no time at all with almost zero learning curve.”
I suggest you look up the video where Rush was on the Colbert Report and tried to play Tom Sawyer on Rock Band. Neil Peart, arguably one of the best drummers in rock, failed miserably.
Buhbye, stupid annoying drum noise. I mean, come on, we like the music, not the tappy noise
@CapnCaveman
Girls have cooties. You’re just a cootielover.
@CapnCaveman
Surely drummers are not likely to get said girlfriend.
YOUR DRUM SET SOCKS !!!
A couple problems with the whole ‘go play a real instrument’ thing:
a) They are assuming that all people playing the game do not already play a real instrument, which is clearly not so.
b) They are assuming that all people playing the game think of the game as a replacement for learning a real instrument. This is very much not true and probably only a very small minority of players.
c) They are assuming that all people playing the game have enough time to devote to learning to play and practicing a real instrument. Some people who play these games are actually very busy and have very limited free time a week to devote to activities outside of their job/school.
d) They are assuming that all people playing the game can afford to own a real instrument. Some people don’t have enough money to buy and maintain an instrument, not to mention lessons. A decent guitar alone can cost $200+ (the prices can go VERY high, over $5k), new strings $4-$50+, cleaning kits $10-$25+, amps $200+ (again can go very high). So the entire cost comes to about $414, and that’s before you add lessons and any other crud you might want or need and any possible fines for noise,
e) They are assuming that all people who play the game WANT to learn an instrument. Many people just plain don’t want to or don’t care to learn an instrument.
f) They are assuming that they are superior to the people who play the game because they know how to play ‘Twinkle Twinkle Little Star’ on the harpsichord and that everyone cares what they, being far more educated in music, has to say. This is in general entirely false as very few people actually care what a smarty pants with a swelled ego has to say.
@Drock
>No one cares if you are talented and skilled at a video game because it doesn’t translate into anything useful in real life.
Unless you’re a professional musician, playing an instrument doesn’t translate into anything useful in ‘real life’ either.
i thought this was a place to rag on funny pictures ..takes your serious debates somewhere serious… I cames here to laff. not to determine whats more worthwile.. we could all be working or doing osmething constructive..so ..Stifle all that serious jazz.. have fun.. make friends…
theres plenty of forums to argue in..
@an1sh
haw haw, you said “doing harder beats”
I don’t see how its really FIXING..
If you have ever played on those drums you would understand why the socks are there….. loud.
Hmm. It actually makes sense (for once) Lets wait and see how they fix the red ring of death.
Haha!! This idea is going to be very useful when I just get angry of “not giving a tone” on the drums and my boyfriend is still wanting to “teach-me-how” should I do it… xD
@Wellthen…
Just paint it blue. Or tape over it. Or WD-40 the crap out of it until it turns off. Whichever.
does this really work?? (ps for those that don’t understand it, he is making the beat of the drums less noticeable… something I will have to try when I get home.
@WD-40
Paint It Black.
My boyfriend has this “socks set up” on his RockBand drum set. Well, actually, HAD this set up, because he’s had the RockBand 2 drum set for almost a year now, which is a LOT more quiet and has more sensitive surface pads. So basically, that’s what the socks were used for on the original drum set. If you Youtube some RockBand songs… you’ll notice this “fix” is a lot more common than you’d think.
Hense, this Fix deserves a thumb down!
@Luna
AMEN!
@Saiya
So true, people that talk about “fake instruments” need to take a hike =P Especially since it really did help, I just recently got a real drum kit and I would suck at it, especially the kick pedal, without rock band.
I♥RB
@Teh Skitch
Seriously? do you think people want to read paragraph upon paragraph? find some friends and maybe even try to have some sex…
@Claudia
Yeah cause that’s what I want to do. Sit around and you tube some rockband videos. WOW! sounds like fun…even worse than listening to you losers go on on about a damn game. The real musicians and the gamers do have one thing in common. Neither one of them can make friends so they sit at home and play with either a game or instrument. Like I said before, try havin some sex it might help all of you out. If you can break free from your big D&D nights.
Drying tha sox!
I don’t do drums, I play the Sox.
spray paint
okay.
playing guitar hero, with my boyfriend…frequently precurser to sex. video games are sexy. not as sexy as d&d, but much sexy none the less. plus, they help you find friends who don’t whine about you talking about zombies drow or kender.
You wouldn’t happen to have a sister by any chance would you?
dud i play guitar well and i suck at rock band although i suck at rock band i must say video games are sexy
Rock Band, Sock Band……same thing.
hey I did this with my first rb drum kit.
and the sock mod works very well
How do you make a bass player or drummer shut up?
Hand them a sheet of music.
bet you he SOCKS at drumming. ;D
well, it’s a crappy first post, but welcome to the family!
…No, I play the sox